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Again, let me know if I can help with any data capture or other information to get the Xbox one hotas protocol figured out.

If needed I PM you, thank you.

I have the Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS ONE and can help capture is needed. Just got my TITAN TWO today.

From another thread, I see there is now a way for us to capture the first two seconds of usb traffic, which should assist in figuring out how to translate app controller into the language needed to behave like an Xbox flightstick.

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=12601#p84732

I left for work today and am busy with work and training until mid June, but if I can update the firmware and capture the Thrustmaster hotas one output I will try to.

J2Kbr wrote:If needed I PM you, thank you.

I used the new capture procedure in gtuner, and will post it below. Is there anything that strikes you as different when hooking up the thrustmaster HOTAS One flight controller vs a regular wired xbox controller?

[USB DESCRIPTOR]
12 01 00 02 FF FF FF 40 4F 04 8C B6 00 01 01 02 03 01 09 02 20 00 01 01 00 A0 32 09 04 00 00 02 FF 47 D0 00 07 05 81 03 40 00 04 07 05 01 03 40 00 04

[STRING 1 DESCRIPTOR]
00 00 00 02 00 00 02 01 80 06 03 01 04 09 00 1A
1A 03 54 00 68 00 72 00 75 00 73 00 74 00 6D 00 61 00 73 00 74 00 65 00 72 00

[STRING 2 DESCRIPTOR]
00 00 00 02 00 00 02 01 80 06 03 02 04 09 00 26
26 03 54 00 2E 00 46 00 6C 00 69 00 67 00 68 00 74 00 20 00 48 00 6F 00 74 00 61 00 73 00 20 00 4F 00 6E 00 65 00

[STRING 3 DESCRIPTOR]
00 00 00 02 00 00 02 01 80 06 03 03 04 09 00 22
22 03 30 00 30 00 30 00 30 00 45 00 45 00 32 00 31 00 39 00 36 00 38 00 39 00 33 00 39 00 32 00 37 00

[USB SNIFF]
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Thank you Capt moore.

Hi J2Kbr, how long can it take for you to know if the T.Flight HOTAS One will actually work on the T2?

STEMALO wrote:Hi J2Kbr, how long can it take for you to know if the T.Flight HOTAS One will actually work on the T2?

I am working to have it supported for the next firmware and Gtuner IV release (possible next week). Thanks.

You don't know how happy i will be.
Its hard looking at my new HOTAS that i can't use. ;)

J2Kbr wrote:

STEMALO wrote:Hi J2Kbr, how long can it take for you to know if the T.Flight HOTAS One will actually work on the T2?

I am working to have it supported for the next firmware and Gtuner IV release (possible next week). Thanks.

Great to hear. It will be great for those people who want to use pc flight controllers in place of an official Xbox one flightstick, and allowed for macros in flightstick mode. I am looking forward to testing it with my actual flightstick.

I do have another question as well. Is it possible to produce an Xbox 360 flightstick output as well?

Using the titan two, plugged into an Xbox 360, with an xbox 360 flightstick, everything already works great, including authentication. That allows my “Real rudder” script to work (as long as you also plug in an official flightstick.)

Moat Xbox 360 flying games do an automatic configuration, changing the control mappings based on if a flightstick or a standard controller is detected. (Tom Clancy HAWX/Ace Combat 6).

The advantage of detecting the correct controller is for things like the throttle. Since a flight stick throttle is a “constant axis position” the game can read the power setting directly. (60% throttle is 60% power). If the game sees a gamepad, the throttle needs to be mapped differently, as once a stick is released it always snaps to neutral, so the in game throttle in had to be set with an accelerate/decelerate control. (Push stick up to accelerate, down to decelerate, neutral to maintain current speed.)

My guess is that a games decide to change configurations (gamepad or flightstick) based on the vid/pid usb id of the connected controller?

Of course, most people don’t own an Xbox 360 flightstick, they are no longer being manufactured or available for purchase. A pc usb flightstick is readily available however.

Is it possible to simply allow the titan to present a “fake” id, allowing the titan two connected to both a wired Xbox 360 gamepad (to still allow for authentication) and pc flight controls to work? The titan would present a faked flightstick vid/pid usb id (forcing the game in flightstick mode) and then use the mapped pc usb flightstick for the actual game inputs.

Is this how the Xbox/ps4 “wheel” mode works for the titan two?

I can dump the usb communication from two versions of actual Xbox 360 flightsticks that I own next week if it will help you obtain the needed usb id.

My guess is since the official flightsticks already authenticate and work with the titan two, it would be a fairly easy addition to add support to, or is the whole situation more complicated than I believe?